Maina's Excessive Lore Questions - Culture Edition

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Maina's Excessive Lore Questions - Culture Edition

Post by Maina » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:30 pm

Just giving myself a thread since I ask a lot of these and don't want to spam the forum with multiple threads. The new VC is at a time I cannot reasonably attend, so I will ask here instead.

This first batch is born of playing a Nuumic character but there being no wiki page for them yet:

How much, if any, of the other game's Nuumic lore is still valid? I have been referring to the old wiki thus far.

Elemancy is no longer a thing, yes? I believe I've heard you mention they (Nuum) are focused on Arcana now?

Is the "we don't need no immortals" attitude still a thing?

There was mention previously of an in-character theory (as evidenced by one of the shelving books) that glyphs draw power from eldritch horrors; how does this fit with the Nuumic "we don't need no immortals" attitude? Do they have a different theory?

Tying in to my previous question (some weeks ago) about cosmetic magic, are the Nuumic still super pretty with fancy eyes due to magic? Or some other cause?

What do they think of other forms of the occult, particularly sorcery and bardic words? Assuming the 'we don't need no immortals' thing is still in-place, I imagine they don't care for Druidry, but the Nuumic philosophy seems to have some overlap with Rhun's 'we are the immortals now' teachings?

Perhaps more controversially, are slaves still a part of their culture? Is the little 'trivia' bit about bad students being made into slaves and pretty-eyed slaves being elevated true?

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Re: Maina's Excessive Lore Questions - Culture Edition

Post by Gorth » Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:58 pm

If you dig back, I want to say three or four Voice Chats ago, you'll find that Rias spoke a little on the 'We don't need no imortals' topic. TLDR: yes, it is.
Blue on black—tears on a river, push on a shove—it don't mean much
Joker on jack—match on a fire, cold on ice—a dead man's touch
Whisper on a scream—never change a thing, doesn't bring you back
It's like blue on black

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Re: Maina's Excessive Lore Questions - Culture Edition

Post by Maina » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:17 pm

These were answered in the VC. Transcription of answers courtesy of tulpa

Q: How much, if any, of the other game's Nuumic lore is still valid? I have been referring to the old wiki thus far.
A: There is now a Nuum page on the new wiki!

Q: Elemancy is no longer a thing, yes? I believe I've heard you mention they (Nuum) are focused on Arcana now?
A: Elemancy is not really a thing any more. The occult is more of a privileged thing for Nuum rather than a commonly taught thing.

Q: Is the "we don't need no immortals" attitude still a thing?
A: As the Nuum will tell it, they've learned what they need to know from the immortals. They've served their purpose, and now the Nuum will become greater. They're trying to stop people thinking about the Immortals and have them concentrate on exceeding them.

Q: There was mention previously of an in-character theory (as evidenced by one of the shelving books) that glyphs draw power from eldritch horrors; how does this fit with the Nuumic "we don't need no immortals" attitude? Do they have a different theory?
A: It's one of those theories, people just don't know. The Nuum, they kind of see Arcana as their continuing mastery over the occult, as they tell it. They do have occultists that can do things without arcana diagrams. It's rare, but they have those people. They want to pass on mastery of these things so that others can do them as well, for the good of society.

Q: Tying in to my previous question (some weeks ago) about cosmetic magic, are the Nuumic still super pretty with fancy eyes due to magic? Or some other cause?
A: They do seem to have unusual qualities such as their eye colour, and they seem to be beautiful people on average. [The new wiki page explains that this occurred in the past and was passed down; it isn't some ongoing technique]

Q: What do they think of other forms of the occult, particularly sorcery and bardic words? Assuming the 'we don't need no immortals' thing is still in-place, I imagine they don't care for Druidry, but the Nuumic philosophy seems to have some overlap with Rhun's 'we are the immortals now' teachings?
A: Words of Power fit in pretty well with Arcana. Sorcery is less common. It is more controlled and out of the public eye. He's sure that Druidry is a thing, but it's not especially prominent. They're on the track where they believe they've learned everything the Immortals have to teach and have ascended to the next level; they consider Druidry another tool in their toolbox. The prevailing theory is: this is a power and we are controlling this power, it exists and we can use it. We've observed this, figured it out and now we can do it for ourselves (rather than drawing on an entity).

Q: Perhaps more controversially, are slaves still a part of their culture? Is the little 'trivia' bit about bad students being made into slaves and pretty-eyed slaves being elevated true?
A: Yes, they're still a thing.

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Re: Maina's Excessive Lore Questions - Culture Edition

Post by Maina » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:22 pm

Asked in a VC, said it might be better as a BBS, so here it is!

What is the Nuumic view of the afterlife?
Are they trying to find ways around it so they are reliant on one less Immortal?
I believe Nuum primarily practices Arcana, as I recall, but do they - openly or secretly with government approval - delve into sorcery at all, for this aim or otherwise?

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