Voicechat Notes: October 8th

[Teri]

Voice chat notes. Mildly spellchecked, but I gave up on capitalizing for the moment.

Q: What's the general consensus on the period of time Jonathon Crowhaven was considered most active? Do we know any legends of when he was still mortal, and if that was pre-Aetgardian, during the Aetgardian Kingdom, or post-plague? Do any particular countries of Arad lay (or have lain) claim to being his home/land of origin?
A: As far he contemporary Aetgardian recent lore and history mentions him. there is a lot of legends that say that he is an avatar or aspect of a different immortal that has power. Some associate with Eru. Some think the Trickster is meddling in things doing something for some reason. People often say it is the trickster doing crazy things if there are no details. More common language name. He is a contemporary immortal. Late Aetgard pre-fall is when he is most mentioned most recorded or noted activity.


Q: Are there any cultural or regional Octum rites, practices, and observances outside of the Lost Lands you could share with us?
A: Most of the Octum stuff we have is contemporary and surviving lore in Aetgard. I think that is mostly localized to lost lands and Aetgard than bringing things in from other lands. But what that stuff is needs to be hammered out for stuff from other cultures. A lot of their lore and traditions is amalgamation of other cultures stuff. It was a melting pot place. It was strongly tied to Faewyr lore as the kingdom grew it drew things from the people moving there. Might be a bit on the wiki. After the tyrant king did all he could during his crusade it ended badly for him. Once he bad his supporters were defeated the kingdom was in a bad way and it was a polarizing thing. The next ruler decided to adapt a bunch of beliefs and merge them. This is for everyone kind of thing to try to get everyone to not worry about repeating the same or being a warlord to target one particular group and kill them. Embrace all the things we celebrate and acknowledge everything

Q: Are ghosts on the roads everywhere?
A: Not just lost lands, but areas of mass sorcery usage.

Q: The king of Aetgard at it's height, was it a bloodline, or appointed by council.
A: Hasn't figured it out. Started out as bloodlines some people spoke against it, uprisings and things. There were debates over bloodlines that were murky but the bloodlines were all over. Not as direct bloodlines. As it got bigger and bigger, Aetgard became an empire, but they had kings of local places and a high king. Some of their draws to get people to join that were part of independent groups, hey you can come be a king too and titled instead of just a chief. It was a way they convinced a lot of people to join them.



Q: I read there are different animal Spirits of the same kind in different region, at least for wolves. That means Bears Spirit too?
A: There is one bear that is the most popular and prominate one. Doesn't mean the other ones are beholden but it is regarded as the most powerful and influential. The more one is worshipped they get more power. Is it such an ancient entity there are debates on as, is the great spirit because it is already super power, or because people gave it all this respect to empower? Or a little bit both. No hard answer to that.

Q: did I just start twiggy? Did I just heard it in a bar
A: Yes





Q: What are you currently planning on coding in? I understand if you don't want to spoil it.
A: It changes daily and now it is Octum next and stay on track for so there is enough stuff ready by the 13th and adding more stuff over time.
Looking forward to death overhaul
Arcanists they need stuff.
Probably see plate armor then chain soon trademark. trying to not overcomplicate.

Q: will metal armor be harder to channel in compared to non-metal?
A: yes it will be harder to channel with

require metal pieces multi piece thing. Some pieces will require combination of things before it become a full piece. Thought about cloth, light leather and coding was a pain.
Chain will be multiple some chain link items. armor skill will lesson armor chink rework it will be a skill roll.


Q: any druid info?
Q: Nothing solid at the moment but will see about something the future.


Q: Does channeling druidry have a feeling?
A: Nothing thought out.
The ritual conducts power to these other entities and other stuff and it will be different to people on their beliefs and how they interpret it. Experiences are dictated by their interpretations. Still is a specific thing which works a specific way, and it can't be reformed. It is fine for people to say "when I use druidy I feel they are weightless in the ocean." Someone else, of a brief sensation of sitting in a circle I know I am being watched measured and stared at and weird feeling of being watched and feeling a connection.

Q:Druidry commune When someone flashes their avatar what is it like?
A: Brief mental image or brief memory feeling or sort of impression like the network.



Q: Hi! In general, can you give us an idea of what Tol Rhun is like?
A: They came about from a rebellion in Ivial and are exiles from Ivial and a lot of sorcery was used, they got kicked out and given treaty, get out of here and we won't mess with you and won't mess us. A lot of bitterness of the rhun at the viali. The viali are immigrants from a different place and asserted themselves and had a change on the locals. Thol Rhun is a narrow area compared to others west of ivial coastline west and south. Large sea cliffs, very cool geographic thing. Most of the rhuidim live in one major settlement built around one central tower. A lot of political intrigue related to bloodlines and who is descended. They have a commerce area close to the Khaldeans they trade with. The Khaldeans are one of the few they don't consider as potential enemies but are suspicious of everyone else. They have states in other places in the country ruled by the central place. Likely some have nice real estate along the cliff.
They are bitter their territory is really small. They can't go east because of the treaty they will break the treaty and the Khaldeans aren't willing to give up land when their land isn't the best anyone.
The primary city is built around the tower a lot of it is vertical space and there the symbolic of the higher up you are the higher up you feel. Not sure on architecture Probably started out really crap but in their culture, they have a chip on their shoulder and pride in who they want to be and awesome. The further from the center the crappy the city will get. Political intrigue if your house gets shamed one of the consequences could be being relocated from the inner circle to outer circle.
Over time they built a nice place for themselves and part of it being centralized they can focus more on that type of thing.
The pre-rhuidim were local people that lived in the area the viali landed in and their identity suppressed as a people until their rebellion and exile on that side. A big part of rhuns history was upset with viali coming in and culturally pushing out the local beliefs. He was a traditionalist of the technically local fasa/people and independent groups and maybe some nuum. And what kicked things off when the last of the old gods showed up and gave him a book. We are faded and gone, here is a book this is the secrets behind our power, it is yours now, become awesome. Do what you want and rhun used that book to learn and teach sorcery and so at that point this is a sign, we are upset, being pushed, our spiritual beliefs are being muddled they are bringing in their own thing. so now the gods have literally given us power and we will fight back, and this is what started the rebellion. Sorcery was not a thing then. It was not unheard of conceptually as things that existed but that is the point when it became an art taken up by mankind. Instead of some weird power out on its own and sometimes people could nudge it one way or another.
Was sorcery the only thing in that book? It is a mystery, or was it the one he latched onto? It is assumed it had other information about the older gods, but it has been lost.
When they got booted out? They would not have accepted any help even from Khaldeans. Big cultural point we are our own people. We don't want to let other people impact that.

Q: Their facial features are from ivial? Where are their features from?
A: They are a product of ivial and mixing. How they are now with pale tones and monochrome looks that is assumed to be from all their sorcerous stuff and what they learned from the book. Sort of think like the nuum they tampered with their bodies because they stand out in a crowd. It's not just like, pale skin it looks different than a hillfolk or faewyr. It is looks distinctly pale and different from other people. With heritage with darker skin tones, something had to have happened to change it.



Q: Are thaum and sorcery considered opposite or two different things?
A: They don't mix well but they aren't opposites.
Sorcery and nether aren't evil. It is deadly and problematic and harmful, but not. Thaum and inner light aren't necessarily considered pure or righteous or virtuous. They try to hone it by embracing things they consider virtuous for meditative path and discipline. They aren't trying to make it known a thaum is a good person. It is a weird thing to try to specify but it is important to Rias for people to know what they are considered. Doesn't mean they are good person or have moral superiority if they can do thaumaturgy.


Q: Is there any occult thing effect by negativity or absence of emotion.
A: Some writing out there that talks about thaum and sorcery being flipped
Sorcery being fueled by opposite of what thaums do. Might just be strong emotions that changes how someone experiences it because of beliefs to focus. Can use emotions to channel will. Thaum isn't a product of being compassion, but compassion can act as channel and disciple to work thaumaturgy.



Q: Is Arcanist 'Magic' and Sorcery generally considered the same root thing, or are they distinctly different?
A: Sorcery is a specific thing and people have found ways to make it do this or that. Some weird material it does this, has certain properties
Where arcana is more, we more we know they patterns do these things, but we do not know why. Push the right buttons and these things happen. You aren't utilizing the warmth glyph you aren't understanding the science of heat or anything. We put the picture and glyphs in this spot but and it works. Not controlling a specific thing, but we know certain combinations and they do different things. There is a science to what they do but the general consensus they are distinct symbols that work in a distinct system. It wasn't random happenstance, but they don't know why. They are wizards altering or changing physics from understanding of science or principles. It is really more we got these combinations, and they are having these types of effects. It would be fun to give them more intricate knowledge feel. Sort of like a language we don't understand. they don't know how, or why distyr causes light or something to shed energy or so on. It just works.
It can be considered drawing skill and degree of efficiency while drawing fit with higher skill
Wants chalks to make things more potent. The circle has many glyphs around the small circle but is pondering techniques or something to adjust it. Wants something with the small glyphs with little tweaks somehow. Get more a feel of not just copying things from a manual but that gives people of trying and experimenting. Still based on general effect of the combination to experiment and tweak. It can be assumed with all the pieces there are little glyphs drawn along following the shapes.

Q: what is Iarels focus
A: might be considered a specialty of her. A lot of people assume a lot of the known common glyphs among in game or other cultures were taught by Iarel to do this thing. It wasn't someone drawing a complex glyph.

Q: any crazy stories about arcana?
A: This place is ravaged by this monster, this happened because some arcanist or equivalent and it summoned something.
This location is a smoldering crater and caused a catastrophe. Might be muttering of secret glyphs but won't be teaching it to just anyone.



Q: Heuctn sacrifice, does that follow under occult things or fall under its own weird thing and not like druid or occult
A: It is their own religious thing.
Wants to write up incredible things from their sacrifices. It isn't an immediate thing. It isn't speed miracle. There is a process to it, they hope the thing is fast, but it isn't instant Doesn't just shift reality. It has a process and a path with work to be done between a to b
Usually performed by priests and they confer and decided is it worth sacrificing for. It is a group effort or decision. Sometimes a cause is deemed worthy by the spirits but that is more miraculous thing. Generally, need right place, right time, right people.
There is build up, and location. A sacrifice in the temples than emergency location. It would depend on the purpose that is appropriate and attuned and monitored by the spirits or immortals you are trying to get in touch with. Similar to worship guidelines.




Q: What impacts nether or nether wells forming?
Both intense emotions and being the sight of something important that is significant/violent. Literally death and spilling of blood that is a major factor.


Q: Not a question per say, but ramble on emotions and effects.
A: When it comes to the occult in general the consensus is emotions and level of dedication for something is going to have an effect. Whether that is minor thing on potency or going through the motions during events or prayers. Everyone on both sides people need to keep in mind gm's don't want to assume what characters are thinking or feeling. When it comes to stuff like that, he is mostly speaking lore wise. He isn't gauging how much your character feels about what your character does. What you are saying is what they are feeling is what they assume.


Q: Housing?
Might throw up a thing about housing and expectations. If managed, no building houses outside town and in the major towns. There will be limited storage for the sake of item bloat. Customization stuff would be cool? We aren't going to let people have fancy mansions everywhere because the feel of the areas to be preserved if there is high class housing and stained-glass windows and gold everywhere. It will be counter to feel and aesthetic and feel of the game. Maybe pottery for tiles, furniture, wood planking floors.
General idea is large upfront costs for the buy, then continually property tax so it has a continued costs as a riln sink. that will differ on area or size. It would be cool to pay extra to get hooked up to pay per month, Kitchen and running water? Water grid. Similar in Mistral but different flavor. Maybe arcana service to renew heating glyphs for flavor perks.
Another one was mail delivered direction to house instead of post office.
Virtualized permission instead of keys where it is assumed they knew where the guest key is or something and don't have to carry a key. On the other hand, he does worry about one person buying a house and sharing it. Wants to figure out how to make it so one person doesn't buy a house and game the system to get around the house costs. Make it so you can buy house pets but only if you are the home owner?
You can only vote if you are a home owner?
What happens if you don't pay? Likely a grace period that is more for item bloat reasons. It would only be loose items, not lose custom things. Or just store things away?
He does plan a variety of houses but not individually. Maybe through auction or something for unique designs. Semi related he thinks would be neat is for certain companies to have a facility. Not a big castle but a meeting hall with x number of chambers and set aside a spot for meetings. Communal area with rooms. Maybe if big enough they could be built a spot in another location. Needs to rework company code.


More arcanist ramblings/brainstorming in vc.
A: Verbal activity to activate a circle. Draw big circle and effects everything.
Storing an effect and go through the motions and do it ahead of time. One will be a triangle instead of a line to store this, so they don't have to draw it without it wearing off. More practical when things are going on. Some things will require whole diagrams for others. For things to be less tedious for them. Might be limited to which.Maybe gems as containers for arcana. Maybe more expensive gems last longer or something like that, so they aren't just there to be sold. It has this effect, and it will run out.


Q: Mentioned in the past sorcery mixes with other things? any group projects?
A: Yes
arcana and druid
arcana and sorcerer
sorcery and druidry

Love the idea of multi-talent coming together for group projects or cool crafting.

[Lexx416]

What's the general consensus on the period of time Jonathon Crowhaven was considered most active? Do we know any legends of when he was still mortal, and if that was pre-Aetgardian, during the Aetgardian Kingdom, or post-plague? Do any particular countries of Arad lay (or have lain) claim to being his home/land of origin?

[Lexx416]

Are there any cultural or regional Octum rites, practices, and observances outside of the Lost Lands you could share with us?

[Gorth]

Very important Rias gets this question, do not skip or Maya will haunt you. Ooooo.

Q: Rias. Have you ever had a dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want them to do you so much you could do anything?

[Teri]

Vc will be in 55 minutes if anyone has other questions to add. If you join the vc in the middle if held in discord, type up any questions to be asked and post them here or in the voicechat section in discord. Then either you can ask or or I can read them (Important for my notetaking)

[Teri]

bump for notes from last week added to the first post.