Farm QOL improvements

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shoryuujo
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Farm QOL improvements

Post by shoryuujo » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:13 pm

I was just thinking about how to deal with figuring out how to process a crop after harvesting it. Command wise/syntax wise, we're good. What I mean is this:

When I harvest a sizeable crop, it goes to the ground. Once it's on the ground, I can't thresh or winnow, because there's too much stuff on the ground. Now, I think the quick go to would be to get a handcart, shift stuff around, process elsewhere, return when finished. Lacking a handcart, this seems problematic, long, and tedious. Any chance we could have this tweaked?

If I understand right, you can push your crop plot beyond the allowable limit, resulting in negative plot allocation. Not sure if this is known or not.

And I'm not sure what the criteria are about item count allowances on farms, but I've definitely run across such issues, and while the existance of the limit is not a problem, I can't seem to figure the rhyme or reason for what is allowed to be stored on the ground in excess, and what is not.

Acarin
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Re: Farm QOL improvements

Post by Acarin » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:17 pm

I would suggest only allow items to remain on the ground in a farm for 5 minutes. This would solve a lot of issues including this.
You reach toward ((DEV Rias)) ... Pull(d225([1]x)):214 vs Mark(d1100):714 = -500 (-222%)
You notice ((DEV Rias)) glance your way, causing you to quickly withdraw your hand from his wool
drawstring pouch (open).
Roundtime: 5 seconds.

shoryuujo
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Re: Farm QOL improvements

Post by shoryuujo » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:23 pm

I think we'd at least need wagons in to alleviate this. It seems like you're pretty anti-farmer. Your suggestion only serves to further alienate those who farm on the MUD, I would think. A suggestion like this is akin to: I think all armor should despawn off the player on log out and it's not storable. In the respect that it's punitive for taking part in an activity in game.

Acarin
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Re: Farm QOL improvements

Post by Acarin » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:27 pm

Rias has stated that farms are creating problems as people are using them for personal storage. What I'm saying is that if you're close to maximum storage and you can't fit more on the ground, it might be a good idea to reduce clutter at your farm so that you have more capacity.
You reach toward ((DEV Rias)) ... Pull(d225([1]x)):214 vs Mark(d1100):714 = -500 (-222%)
You notice ((DEV Rias)) glance your way, causing you to quickly withdraw your hand from his wool
drawstring pouch (open).
Roundtime: 5 seconds.

shoryuujo
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Re: Farm QOL improvements

Post by shoryuujo » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:33 pm

There is a distinct difference between "using for personal storage" and "can't process the harvest I just pulled in on my farm". I do not wish to store it there, I wish to process it, and move/sell/allocate the items after processing to another location. Now, I can't easily or reasonably move through the processing step, because of this issue.

Also, regarding the ability to store lots of items on a farm:
1) are people allowed to store handcarts elsewhere? Do they?
2) There does seem to be some prevention of having many items present on a farm (even during a harvest). So, it seems like people can't just store tons of stuff on a farm anymore, or they have to meet certain criteria of which I am unaware.

Acarin
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Re: Farm QOL improvements

Post by Acarin » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:36 pm

Can you harvest less at a time? Not sure how that works but I assume you don't have to harvest everything at once?
You reach toward ((DEV Rias)) ... Pull(d225([1]x)):214 vs Mark(d1100):714 = -500 (-222%)
You notice ((DEV Rias)) glance your way, causing you to quickly withdraw your hand from his wool
drawstring pouch (open).
Roundtime: 5 seconds.

shoryuujo
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Re: Farm QOL improvements

Post by shoryuujo » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:43 pm

Yeah, if I'd known this would be an issue, I would have adjusted. Having been unaware you've not the space on a farm, to, at a minimum, harvest (not even a full blown farm) [approx. 40] plants, and not be able to process them. I'm a little stuck and head scratching right now. Not sure I, or anyone else would want to move the entire crop from a farm (and how will that be done without a handcart as a -minimum-, if not a wagon?), to move the whole thing in a single move, to another location, thresh/winnow, and then sort out, or store the products as desired.

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Irylia
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Re: Farm QOL improvements

Post by Irylia » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:08 am

You can store a handcart in your bank vault (and at least used to be able to in a rented inn room as well - though I'm not sure if that still holds up), so farms aren't the only place. Additionally, there are furniture items/containers/construction-built storage items to help reduce clutter on the ground. They use up farm plots instead of ground space. You really should not be running into too much ground clutter on your farm if it's not being used for excessive storage, nor do I think we need to make them have a janitor since we already have clutter-limiting in place.

In the meantime, you should also be able to harvest straight to your backpack or another container using "container set" options. Granted, I don't know how many tilled plots you're dealing with and that may also be part of the problem. Just because you *can*, doesn't mean you should. It's very easy to grow much more than you can reasonably deal with in regular playtime, and you might have to make several trips to the market or other locations until a handcart can be purchased, but the container set command should let you at least move things around more easily. Honestly though, if your farm ground space is that cluttered already, you might also want to consider using the vault or other storage methods, or selling/trashing whatever excess you're not actually using until you can afford a handcart or farm structures to help with organization. If you can't sell what you're growing due to flooding or other market issues (like no set-price), post about it and see if you can find a direct buyer. The sooner you get a handcart, the less you need to worry about any of this.

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Re: Farm QOL improvements

Post by Ephemeralis » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:42 am

Having dedicated baskets or crates that allow direct-to-container harvesting with better quality crates/baskets affording more space for produce could be a good way to promote more crafting interdependence.

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